Sunday, July 30, 2006

A rare look into Hizbullah's military arm

They are highly disciplined, highly motivated and ready to fight. This article is a very rare look into how men of Hizbullah's "active" group think and act - and most importantly what their aspirations are. It would be hard for me to comment on them now because I wouldn't want them to settle scores with me later (kidding). I think this article by the Guardian is very much worth the read, and I will leave it to you to comment your thoughts on the group's fighting arm.
mrtez

As the shells fall around them, Hizbullah men await the Israelis
Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, south of Tyre
Saturday July 29, 2006
The Guardian

Inside a well-furnished apartment in a village on the outskirts of Tyre, with shelves of books piled from floor to ceiling, a black turbaned cleric and three men sit sipping bitter coffee. By the door is a pile of Kalashnikovs and ammunition boxes; handguns are tucked into the men's trousers. The four are Hizbullah fighters, waiting for the Israelis.

"Patience is our main virtue, we can wait for days, weeks, months before we attack. The Israelis are always impatient in battle and in strategy," says the cleric, Sayed Ali, who claims to be a descendant of the prophet. "I know them very well."

As if to make his point, the sound of Israeli shells blasting the surrounding hills shakes the door and shutters every few minutes. Ali does know the Israelis. He started fighting them at the age of 17 when they invaded Lebanon in 1982. Three years later he was arrested with two of his comrades and spent a few months in an Israeli prison. Within weeks of his release he was fighting them again.That's what he did for the next six years.

For the last five years he has been finishing his theology studies in Tehran. A month ago, he was asked by Hizbullah to return to southern Lebanon. He arrived a week before the fighting began.
Standing at the window, he points to the banana plantations between us and the blue Mediterranean. "I have fought for years in these groves. We used to sit and wait for them [the Israelis] to make a move and then we would hit. They always moved too quickly, too soon."
All over the hills of south Lebanon hundreds of men like Sayed Ali and his comrades are waiting - some in bunkers, some in farm houses - for the Israeli troops to arrive. Sayed Ali and his men spend most of their time in the building where his apartment is, moving only at night.

"We stay put and we don't move till we get our orders, and this is why we are not like any other militia. A militiaman will fire whenever he likes at whatever he likes," explains one of the men, who says he has been involved in firing Katyusha rockets into northern Israel. "We have specific orders. Even when we fire rockets we know when and where [to fire] and each of the men manning the launchers runs to a specific hiding place after firing the rockets."
He says Hizbullah fighters expect the site of a rocket launch to be hit by an Israeli airstrike or shell within 10 to 15 minutes.
Another of the men, who says he is Sayed Ali's brother, explains how Hizbullah teaches its fighters patience: "During our training we spend days in empty buildings without talking to anyone or doing anything. They tell me go and sit in that building, and I go and sit there and wait."

According to Ali, Hizbullah operates as "a state within the state", with its own hospitals, social organisations and social security system. "But we are also an Islamic resistance movement, an indoctrinated army," he adds. "I would go and knock the door at someone and say we need $50,000, he would give me [that] because they trust us."
The fighting force of the organisation is divided into two: the "active" group, whose task is to serve in Hizbullah, and the reserve, or Ta'abi'a, as it is known in Arabic. The active fighters get monthly pay. The reserves are called on only in time of war, and receive bonuses but no regular pay. A third section, the Ansar, comprises people who support or are supported by the organisation.

Ali, the commander of Hizbullah in his village, and his men are part of the active force, and their orders are to wait for further orders. "Hizbullah hasn't even mobilised all its active fighters, and the Israelis are calling their reserve units," he said.
Hizbullah prides itself on its secretiveness and discipline. "We don't take anyone who knocks at our door and says 'I want to join'. We raise our fighters. We take them when they are young kids and raise them to become Hizbullah fighters. Every fighter we have believes that the ultimate form of being is martyrdom." The three men nod their assent.

Shia symbols and mythology play a big role in the ideology of Hizbullah, especially the tragedy of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the prophet who in the 7th century led a few hundred men against the well-organised army of the caliph in Damascus. He was slain in Karbala, and Shia around the world commemorate these events in Ashura.

"Every one of those fighters is a true believer, he has been not only trained to use guns and weapons but [indoctrinated] in the Shia faith and the Husseini beliefs," Ali says.
He and his fellow fighters have been preparing for the latest conflict with the Israelis for years and he acknowledges the support received from Iran.
"When we defeated them in 2000 we did that with [Katyusha] rockets. We had six years to prepare for this day - the Americans are sending laser-guided missiles to the Israelis, what's wrong if the Iranians help us? When the Syrians were here we would get stuff through their supply lines, now it's more difficult."

The TV is blaring patriotic songs and pictures of destroyed bridges, houses and buildings. The men are feeling confident - only a day earlier the Israelis suffered heavy casualties in the village of Bint Jbeil.
"Our strategy is to hit the commandos and the Golani units like we did in Bint Jbeil," Ali says. "Those are their best units. If they can't do anything, the morale of the reserve units will sink."
For Ali and his comrades, the latest conflict is a war of survival not only for Hizbullah but for the whole Shia community. It is not only as a war with Israel, their enemy for decades, but also with the Sunni community. Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt have all expressed fears of Iranian domination over the Middle East.

"If Israel comes out victorious from this conflict, this will be a victory for the Sunnis and they will take the Shia community back in history dozens of years to the time when we were only allowed to work as garbage collectors in this country. The Shia will all die before letting this happen again."
He says that even if the international community calls on Hizbullah to disarm as part of a peace deal, he and his men will not lay down their arms. "This war is episode two in disarming Hizbullah. First they tried to do it through the Lebanese government and the UN. When they failed, the Americans asked the Israelis to do the job."

Despite Israel's claims to have inflicted heavy losses on Hizbullah, Ali insists his side is in a strong position. "Things are going very well now, whatever happens we are winning. If they keep bombing us we will stay in the shelters, and with each bomb more people support the resistance. If they invade they will repeat the miserable fate they had in 1982, and if they hold one square foot they will give the Islamic resistance all the legitimacy. If they want to kill Hizbullah they have to kill every Shia in the south of Lebanon."

And even when the battle with the Israelis is over, he adds menacingly, Hizbullah will have other battles to fight. "The real battle is after the end of this war. We will have to settle score with the Lebanese politicians. We also have the best security and intelligence apparatus in this country, and we can reach any of those people who are speaking against us now. Let's finish with the Israelis and then we will settle scores later."

35 Comments:

Blogger Lilu said...

hmmmmmmmmm.

I'm not sure if I'm in shock, or not at all surprised.

Israel really isn't Lebanon's worst enemy, is it.

Well, the piece speaks for itself.

2:05 AM  
Anonymous bigberta said...

Can you understand that many people in the West only can think of disarming them and think after this everything will be fine?

2:26 AM  
Blogger mrtez said...

Nor Israel nor Hizbullah is our worst enemy.
Our worst enemy is ourselves...our weaknesses, our division...foreign intervention in lebanon and disgusting politicians too...
these are the most pressing issues and our most worrisome problems...
if all the above were dealt with, neither israel nor hizbullah would need to be doing the insane battle they are waging...

2:29 AM  
Blogger Lilu said...

So - flat out, what is going to be done about this? 2 days after Israel leaves, what will be happening to Lebanon?

Tarek, I can't help but think, for you - enough talking. You guys need to start thinking action. I don't think you have a choice. Israel will not be in Lebanon forever, and the day you have to deal with that guy in the article is coming fast. What are you going to do about it?

3:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The world had better wake up. This "Party of Satan," is pure evil. This racist organization is bent on destroying anyone with opposing views about their evil doings. They definitely have a Nazi mindset. However, they are weak minded and inferior militarily. They are poorly trained and pretty much ignorant in battle. Their hatred will cause their defeat. Iran and Syria will suffer the same humiliation. Hezbollah, Syria, Iran you putrid vomit of hatred...quit while your children still have a future. Don't believe this crap about "Martyrdom". Scum like you will remain dust after your death, unless you change your evil ways. You have no God. You have no religion. You only have hate. Your Kingdom will be Hell. Sayed Ali, a cleric? The only thing you’ll learn from this idiot is death.

7:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i pity people who make comments like this ANONYMOUS person. I pity men like hizbollah who no nothing more than to fight and think they are dying to go to a better place........IT comes down to one issue is that the secret to having a successful country or nation is EDUCATION.....ANONYMOUS person if you think that hizboallah is ignorant and evil....(I am not supporting thier teachings and way of fighting) What do you call the Isreali's who are killing children and women like they were slaughtering animals???? What if the roles were reversed and hizboallah were killing children and women in Isreal... what would you call them???...the amount of killings there are that has been will not stop until people like you educate themselves and READ!!!!!! Both sides are to blame not just one.

11:04 AM  
Anonymous ABULIL said...

Is it all about blaming? 70 years ago some people thaught that blaming would be enought. This is also the case nowadays in Darfur for example.
Public blaming of all sides (why only two...?) is just a convinient way to say: I don't want to be involved. If you can afford it, fine, but I don't think so... Take side, or your childern will blame YOU for the consequences, whatever will be!

12:01 PM  
Anonymous time-out chicago said...

goto the following link to read an interview with Ramsay:

http://www.timeout.com/chicago/Details.do?page=1&xyurl=xyl://TOCWebArticles1/74/out_there/a_tale_of_two_cities.xml

12:23 PM  
Blogger Lilu said...

11.04 - Hizbullah IS killing children and women in Israel.

12:52 PM  
Blogger mrtez said...

lilu,
i would expect more from you than the sentence you wrote...

"hizbullah IS killing children and women in Israel"
"Israel IS killin children and women in Lebanon"

more than 200 children dead in lebanon...this is unfair...this is horrible...and this is the fuel that 'they' need...

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hizbullah is killing children and women in israel.
israel is killing more children and women in lebanon.
hizbullah is killing israeli soldiers.
israeli soldiers are killing hizbullah fighters.
hizbullah destroys israeli houses.
israel destroys more lebanese houses.

the hizbullah article above shows one thing:

there are no good and bad guys.
there are humans, who made different experiences.
and they react (different).
logically, they react for their own purposes.
but what was the beginning? who was the hen, who was the egg?
stern gang terrorism, plo terrorism, hamas terrorism, israeli army terrorism, hizbullah terrorism?

terrorists? freedomfighters?
if you dont want to understand somebody, how will you influence him?
by force? does it work? at moment?

there is a stupid sentence:
"ones terrorist is the other ones freedom fighter."

thinking like this makes every attempt to solve the problem senseless.
like the attempt to divide people into terrorists and antiterrorists.
the winner decides, who is the terrorist. this is called history.
but at the moment?

to get peace, you need a situation that calmes hizbullah fighters down.
and the israelis too.
a situation that makes clear, that peace is the cheaper way. for all.

this sounds cheap and childish, but it is the problem:
israel and hizbullah have the force, that enables them to do what they want and the power not to accept, what the majority of lebanese people want.
and they continue to do, what they want.

how to calm them down?

were israelis really thinking, they can bring up lebanese society to fight hizbullah by war? with the lebanese army?
i dont think, that they are so stupid.

did they think they need this war to get real peace troops on their northern border?
i dont think so.

i suppose for a moment, they thought, they can really fight hizbullah by using other weapons than after 1982. going the harder way.
and i suppose today they already started to think more realistic.

so they have to think about, what to do, if their war does not bring the results,
they wished.
only if hizbullah is in this same situation at the same moment,
there would be a time for peace.

i fear, as long, as nowbody wins or looses, the war goes on and everybody is loosing.

yet, i dont see, what any diplomat can do, i dont see, what lebanese people can do.
i dont see, what a peace movement in israel can do, after rockets came down on their rooftops. i dont see, what a security force can do.

i think this is, what the british call catch 22.

for the warriors it makes no sense, to stop war. the war is senseless, but peace (now) seems more senseless.

this seems to be the time of the idiots. and it seems you can´t do anything.

everything seems.

lebanese people seem to be the hostages of nazrallah and olmert.

the only power capable to stop this war are the united states.

but they want to see hizbullah dying.
otherwise, iran and hizbullah would not (never?) accept what they suggest.
syria as a diplomatic mediator? i dont know.

war seems to make sense.

security troops in south lebanon can only work, if this troops have the rigt, that american troops had after the first invasion in irak.
but that time, they fucked shiites.
i did only work for the us, not for the people in irak.
it "worked" only for a certain time.

i dont believe, that nasrallah wants the us army in his area.
and i believe bush wants to kill hizbullah even in the future.
for him they are always the beginners of terrorism and war and not the guys,
who react with terrorism and war.

a new us government?
winning israelis?
winning hizbullah?

saw some israelis writing here.
i would like to hear if one of them has any idea. i mean, the second one, after killing hizbullah.

would lebanese people accept the british or us-army in south lebanon?
french troops, germans?
hizbullah with or without weapons then?

i dont see a such a solution.

thomas

3:36 PM  
Blogger mrtez said...

lilu, again the problem is that the IDF has put the lebanese in a odd situation...squeezed between two parties fighting for their own cause...
the Israeli government should have found solutions with the lebanese government before attacking so ruthlessly...whatever the reason...

this is why i always say i am now worried about the future of lebanon...

5:19 PM  
Anonymous ABULIL said...

Thomas,
You are clearly right in expressing the confusion that any rational person has when trying to understand the situation. The origin of the confusion is that we try to conciliate two rational systems that are non-conciliable. It starts from the very basic values like human lifes: being eventually killed is used as threat by Israelis but is an award for Hizbollah.
I agree with you that, from this perspective, only an uncontestable defeat of one side can end the tragedy. Thus, the real question is who shall win, since the outcome will be very different...

What I can't agree is with your statement that there are not "right and wrong" players in this game. Let's not confuse the roles of the agressor and the "disproportional retaliator" - there is no symethry in the equation.

On pure factual grounds, there is only one agressor in this conflict: Hisbollah, that atacked two soverain states: Israel (directly) and Lebanon (by non-authorized use of its teritory to initiate the atack). From both atacked states, the response was "disproportional": Lebanon with too weak retaliation compared to the damage incured on them as result of Hisbollah agression; Israel too forcefully measured on the same scale. However, the problem with the "proportional response" is that the measurment scale depends on the view of the observer. In this region, unfortunately, agressions were always solved by excessive brutal force (Jordan, Egypt, etc. stoped extreme Islamic actions in a couple of days, with thausands of casualties; remember the Iraq-Iran war; the genocide of Kurds...). On this scale, the "reaction" of Israel is too much for the western moral code but two little for the local code in order to be effective. If Lebanon had the military infrastructure of Israel, the conflict could be solved in a couple of days (and a lot more deads, of course) by smashing Hisbollah without hesitations, in line with your first observation.
Unfortunately, politics in the region don't allow Lebanon and Israel to ally.
The weakest pays the price, as always...

5:43 PM  
Blogger Anon said...

Good post Tarek.

I read the article on the front page of the Guardian yesterday although there were a few omissions on my version...

I felt deeply troubled by it especially when reading another article in today’s (30th) Telegraph entitled “the old enemies are uniting over Lebanon”. If anybody wants an electronic copy, send me a mail.

The chilling end of the article in the post...“Let's finish with the Israelis and then we will settle scores later”...is harrowing.

What gravely concerns me is the context and the wider scope. Not only that but the potential ramifications of what is yet to come.

Hezbollah represent Shia fundamentalism...their appeal to civilians being that they are a means to retaliate against a perceived aggressor and oppressor – one who is seen as evil and without remorse. When faced with anguish, desperation, unrelenting torment and no other way; a call of solidarity makes perfect sense.

Yet if Hezbollah are perceived to win the current conflict, this sends out a clear message that Shia fundamentalism ‘works’ and may radicalise other areas of the Middle East. Any perceived victory could endanger relations with Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt. Worryingly, if Shias in Saudi Arabia were to adopt Hezbollah’s tactics then there is a danger of the area de-stabilising. The stakes are raised even higher due to the area being rich in oil.

So Israel, and friends, do not want Hezbollah to win. They want them to lose. But they are going about it the wrong way; this outrageous shock and awe military tactic to create a mini coup d’etat or to obliterate capability is not working, and is unlikely to. I agree with Tarek, the Israeli government should have found solutions with the Lebanese government before attacking. Perhaps this methodology may be brought about by international pressure, who knows?

Hezbollah may be perceived as being the last best hope for retribution of a powerful foe but they shouldn’t win, right?

6:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys in Lebanon who think this flag is the symbol of a peaceful country are fucked...it's a gun if you didn't notice?? What does that tell you? this isn't a movie...you seriously feel your national flag should be a weapon? is that what you are about there? I guess you reap what you sow.

[img]http://www.americanintelligence.us/albums/album18/hezbollahflag.thumb.gif[/img]

6:23 PM  
Blogger mrtez said...

anonymous,
i appreciate your comments and am far from defending or attacking anyone...
but i think you would be interested to look at this image:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/8162/1974/1600/Irgun1.jpg

look it up...do you see any similarities?

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are on Hezbollah's side - be prepared to live by their rules.

If you are on Israels side - Be prepared to live under their rule.

Now, if anyone here had a choice, which set of rules would you live by.

Personally - I pick the side that allows me to post anonymously in Blogs without throwing me in jail for dissent; right before executing me for treason.

9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hizbollah if you are so tough why don't you quit hiding and fight?
Qana was entirely your fault.

3:37 AM  
Blogger starter said...

anonymous, i hope hezbolla can see you're meesage to them. anyone knows hezbolla member, please pass on anonymous comment on them.

4:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous:
if Israel is so tough, why dont they send more troops looking for Hezbollah, instead of just bombing form the air everything that moves...

And to all of you anonymous smartasses: dont take sides in the conflict if you have not enough knowledge about the matter. Move your lazy ass instead and do some reading from some objective sources... It is not a football game over here... A country is getting systematically screwed by a nation that considers itself as "civilized".

And this does not mean that i am a big fan of Hezbollah....

Karim

3:55 PM  
Anonymous world citizen said...

Lebanon, take control of your country , your values, or is hezbollah your choice?

support hatred & you will pay the consequences; continue the cycle & your children will also pay dearly from the hatred you instilled into them..break the cycle as you have that choice..

hatred will kill you all, intolerance will kill you all, arrogance will kill you all, ignorance will kill you all,
think people!

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6:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dt u think in times of war we should all be supporting those who are fighting for lebanon? I'm sure u know that without them u would be greeting israeli soldiers everyday!
lilu, stop thining about taking action for the day after the war ends, do u think israel is protecting u? believe me u r its enemy just like hizballah and all the lebanese, they are hitting everywhere wether u support hizballah or u dt. I hope u can show a little support for the "army" that is protecting u and all lebanon. When the war ends, and if hizaballah still exists, they won't kill any of the political leaders that didnt support them and believe me u wont have to deal with Ali or whoever (dt think that they all have the same ideas as Ali at least they're cheaf doesnt)... It is an attitude like yours that has destroyed lebanon in the past and might destroy it again (or what is left of it) after this war. If only we could be once united or not even united just living peacefully!!! Peace between all lebanese is what we need and this needs an open mind....

7:15 PM  
Anonymous k said...

hehehehe ANONYMOUS told hizballah to quit hiding and fight!! if he's that tough y would he be hiding under ANONYMOUS ?! isnt it ironic ?... don't u think ?

12:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These aren’t soldiers, they’re not even men. They’re cowards that hide behind shields consisting of women and children. People talk about how determined they are, how they will win. Well if this is how you fight then say good bye to many more women and children, I guess it’s population control of future terrorists and baby makers. Hide you cowards, run and hide.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These aren’t soldiers, they’re not even men. They’re cowards that hide behind shields consisting of women and children. People talk about how determined they are, how they will win. Well if this is how you fight then say good bye to many more women and children, I guess it’s population control of future terrorists and baby makers. Hide you cowards, run and hide.

7:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe they are cowards but at least they're fighting for their country!!! doing something usefull!! do u really believe that they would sacrifice woman and children to fire some rockets ?? dt u think its just a lame excuse israel gave to protect herselve from this a horrible massacre? dt u see they have the best spying equipement on earth i think with this equipement they should be at least able to make a difference between women and children and on the other side fighters!! this was just an excuse "majzarit qana" was meant to be !!!

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i ct believe pple can defend israel who is killing them and their families!! stop believing what they say!! they are firing the bombs that are killing the innocent pple not hizballah!! with their high tech rockets they can hitt huzballah without hitting the innocent they just dt want to do it !!! their goal is to make the lebanese pple hate huzballah and whats the best way to do that ? well killin families and making u believe its becoz "they are protecting themselves with children and woman" !! the worst thing is that its working the lebanese are more and more forgetting who their real enemy is and instead blaming hizballah.... long live lebanon and its pple hizballah now needs the support of every1 this is not the time to blame we ct fight an inside and outside war (even if the 2nd 1 is a cold war!)...support them israel hates all of us from north to south no matter wich religion u r !!

11:53 PM  
Blogger Watchman777 said...

This is my first, but certainly NOT my last post as you will hear a great deal from me in the days to come.
First let me send my SINCERE condolances to the survivors of the innocent people who have paid the ultimate sacrifice in this war.
Good people of Lebanon-WAKE UP! Hizbillah is NOT your friend, they talk out of both sides of their mouth and only tell the truth when a lie will NOT work. Your WELL BEING is NOT their focus! They want to USE you to achieve THEIR agenda and that being the extinction of ISRAEL. PLEASE, in the name of the MOST HIGH GOD, wake up, kick them out of your country as you would a mad dog from your yard. THEY are a BLIGHT and need to be banished. Take back your BEAUTIFUL cities and country while you can.

P.s NO, I am not a Jew, I am a Christian from the United States who being concerned for not only your country, but your SOULS as well!

5:36 AM  
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7:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey watchman777 since when does americans care about lebanon?? dt u c what u r doing in Iraq and Afghanistan ? Arent u the people who encourage democracy well lets c how democratic israel is, what have they done to this day ? destroyed hizballah: NO , destroyed schools : YES, destroyed hospitals : YES, destroyed entire buildings filled with innocents : YES , killed over 1000 innocents : YES , have managed to destroy the whole country : HELL YEAH !!! and all these were just claimed as MISTAKES !! ALL THE INNOCENTS KILLED R MISTAKES! if u follow this logic well we can say sept 11th is a mistake! dt get me wrong what happened that day was the most horrible thing!!!!
U think hizballah is using us to achieve its agenda well i think the USA is using israel to achieve its own agenda : the new middle east!!! i hope u heard Rice talking about a new middle-east do u think that just came up with them when the war started ?? NO it was meant to be, the planned it and now they r doing it!!!
Did u ask urself why did hizballah kidnapp these soldiers wich is (or was!!) the excuse for israel to start this war?? well ill tell u some years ago both sides decided to exchange prisonners with the help of the germans but israel changed her mind at the last minute and kept 3 lebanese prisonners in its prisons!!! ask urself why?? ask ur government y ?? didnt u realize that the main goal of this war on lebanon wich was to libertate the 2 soldiers vanished ?? THEN IT WASNT REALLY THE MAIN GOAL DONT U THINK??
just one more thing u should know, the agenda of hizballah is not to make israel disappear in fact Nassrallah said it clearly the other day our goal is not to go into israel but to take our land back and our prisonners back!! In fact in 2000 after israel was kicked off of south lebanon she stayed in a small part wich remains till this day occupied and thats why hizballah still exists and that is his agenda!!
i have been to the USA several times and my family lives there, i know how the medias manipulate u so plz stop watching cnn start reading foreign news papers that tell real news...plz check this link ull know whats going on : www.fromisraeltolebanon.org

1:31 PM  
Blogger Watchman777 said...

Anonymous, Having visited our country several times I would think that u would be more familiar with our (American citizens) desire for peace and the caring that we (the citizens) have towards our neighbors throughout the world! YES, we (the citizens) do encourage democracy which DOES equate to FREEDOM-NO (the citizens) do NOT wish to force it down peoples throats in order to obtain said demcocracy. As for Israel destroying everything BUT hizballah, well that remains to be seen. Please do not assume that because I am NOT from your part of the world that I have no idea about whats going on in your country. I KNOW for a FACT and NOT from cnn that hizballah's MAIN agenda IS just like it's COUSIN Iran and that IS the destruction of the ZIONISTs as you all like to refer to them, this IS well known through out the FREE world. The Iranian president has made THAT quite clear AND hizballah jumps through the hoops that Iran puts in front of them in order to keep the multiple MILLIONS of dollars flowing to it-so PLEASE do NOT insult my intelligence by attempting to make me believe else wise. THEY R THUGS and nothing less and DO hold you and your people CAPTIVE, just as the tallibon (sp) DID in Afganistan. You see we hold elections to assign people to different offices and it is SAD to say that most of our politicians have very little integrity. They "tickle" our ears so speak by telling us WHAT we want to hear while running for office and then develope memory problems once elected, that's WHY I emphasize "the citizens" when I speak about how WE feel! In truth, you can tell when a politician is lying because his mouth is moving, something like the representatives of hizballah AND most countries, not withstanding your own. The one Ambassador from Syria-his name escapes me is known by some of us here as the "muppet." I think he ONLY tells the truth when a lie WON'T work! MY time right now is short, but I will address YOUR comments in detail at a later time! Until then may the GOD of PEACE smile upon you and your family!

9:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

first of all i really hope u saw the site that i told u to see coz maybe u would at least, not know, but feel what we r feeling everyday!! dt claim that u know what is going on becoz believe me u dt, u think that u know what is going on becoz u fell in the trap of the american "free" media wich by the way u think can express themselves freely...
i dt think u (as in citizens) know when politicians are lying and i dt think u really know how to chose ur leaders : i mean u do realize that president Bush has been elected twice ( i hope u dt think he's a good president he did nthg but wars to make the world free and make democracies reign but can u really install a democracy using force ?? the meaning itself of the democracy is NOT to be installed by violence..)
anyway, since ur president did nthg but wars through out the world and he has been elected twice u CANT say : "(American citizens) desire for peace and the caring that we (the citizens) have towards our neighbors throughout the world!"..
you might tell me these wars had a goal to fight terrorism well just to give u a small history lesson from the region: 1-Ousama bin laden (and taliban) was created and given munitions and weapons by the US government to fight URSS in afghanistan in the cold war.
2- Saddam Hussein became the leader in iraq helped by the USA and thats becoz they wanted him to fight Iran after the islamic revolution (becoz as u might know ur democracy stood behind the dictatorship of iran can u believe it ? they now want to spread democracy but they supported dictators before..strange dt u think ?)
u r talking about the millions Iran send to hizballah but unfortunetly u forgot to mention the BILLIONS usa sends to Israel every year..! not the mention the smart bombs that they just sent to Israel so that they could kill even more civilians but u know sending more weapons can perhapse increase the speed of the cease fire NO? A cease fire that ALL the countries want except as usual USA and Britain strange every1 is wrong about this but 2 countries are always right...
u said: "I KNOW for a FACT and NOT from cnn that hizballah's MAIN agenda IS just like it's COUSIN Iran and that IS the destruction of the ZIONISTs as you all like to refer to them, this IS well known through out the FREE world. The Iranian president has made THAT quite clear AND hizballah jumps through the hoops that Iran puts in front of them in order to keep the multiple MILLIONS of dollars flowing to it-so PLEASE do NOT insult my intelligence by attempting to make me believe else wise." well first of all hizballah its not the COUSIN of the Iranians, it is iranian (hehe), second of all it is maybe the 2nd time that i hear the word "zionist" in my entire life i dt know who r the WE that use this word and believe me its an english word and we speek arabic over here...third of all, i would appreciate if u review ur map of the world so u would know we DO live i a FREE coumtry but i dt think urs is really a free one...U r right the Iranian president said he wanted to erase israel from the map but i dt think he would use 1000 hizballah member and some weapons to do so, he knows the US are blindly supporting israel!! one last thing hizballah was created in 1982 and fights israel since then long before Ahmadi Najad became president of Iran so they didnt " jumps through the hoops that Iran puts in front of them".
I would like to remind u that we r a democracy and we are all familiar with the "election process" u kindly tried to explain to me..
U ARE RIGHT (yes u are!!) the ambassador of syria is a muppet i wouldnt agree more, see i dt defend syria or iran but i defend the DEMOCRATIC repuclic of lebanon!
I would like from u to read what i wrote before so u could answer the more important questions u havent answered thank u...
PS: did u once ask urself y does the US government want to force the democracy on some countries and not the others?? think about it, its called the desperate need for black gold.

11:50 PM  

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