Wednesday, August 09, 2006

UNable

It's sad that a person like me feels it is necessary to post this image. I always was a strong advocate for the UN and its purpose to be, but for the first time I feel the UN has abandoned us completely. Actually it did not abandon us, it is useless. Innocent people are dying and we are not even close to stopping this madness. Much the contrary, I feel today that this war is not only going to go on, but I also feel it will get bigger and bigger. And this because the UN can't even come up with a working solution that will stop the fighting. Actually the UN Security Council sadly cannot even agree on a solution. This wants that and that wants this. It's nonsense. And while all this talking is taking place, people keep on dying. Innocent people and children.
The USA was supposed to be a friend of Lebanon after we got rid of Syria. This is how a friend acts? By not calling for a cease-fire but by calling for a continuation of hostilities? I am completely devastated by what is happening to my country. I am completely broken and I only see this situation get worse. We are in a whirlpool going down, down, down. As I write this Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah speaks on TV. What will he say? Does it matter anymore? I don't know, but after 4 weeks this seems it doesn't have an end anymore. At least, this will not end at the UN as we all hoped it will. This will be a long one, much longer than any Lebanese ever thought it will be.

75 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that Hezbollah was still in the south of your country already served as verification of the uselessness of the UN.

9:11 PM  
Blogger rufusmommy said...

I don't know what to say, except that I'm so sorry that all of this is happening. I hope for peace for both sides.

9:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope for peace throughout the Middle East as a whole. Despite what some may think of us in the US, even those of us who are conservative, we do want peace. We may disagree on how to get there, but we want peace. The same cannot be said for Nasrallah, Iran, or North Korea. We need to unite together to push those evils out.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

I'm sorry that this is happening as well, but don't be surprised by the U.S. response...the Israeli lobby in this nation is very powerful. I was glad to see the French respond favorably to the Arab league, but knew our nation would present a problem. For what it's worth, I'm writing my legislators, but this is the case of an intransigent administration.

9:24 PM  
Blogger fairy said...

we are all broken. it's pure insanity.

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rick...it is very sad to see people like you who constantly blame problems on the administration. Want to see partisan politics at their finest? Watch some of the Democrats and their strategists who have been on the news lately saying the US hasn't been supporting Israel enough. The one sided blame game needs to stop in this country. To believe the French are somehow morally better than we are is laughable. They have a different constituency to appease, one that has centuries old Arab tradition.

9:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheikh Hassan Narallah has agreed to the sending of 15K Lebanese troops to the south...

This is very very good, by the way. Nobody should disregard the implications of this concession..its better than the sending of international troops.

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is very confusing as to why he would agree to it. Unless he believes that again he will be able to operate under the guise of a force being there and he is not. That being said, Israel needs to take this new deal, minus the prisoner swap, and work towards a diplomatic peace.

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought this was a Lebanese people and army....... They're just as wortthless as the UN.

9:55 PM  
Blogger Lilu said...

That's a great image. Do you know it's origin? It was done in 1995, the UN's 50th anniversary, in criticism of it's role in the war in Bosnia - most ironically, the artist is the extremely talented Israeli graphic designer Yossi Lemel. He does alot of political work, including posters for Amnesty and enviromental organisations. You can and should see some of it at http://www.lemel.co.il/.

As for the UN - well, I never had much faith in them, as do most Israelis. We all remember the October 2000 abduction of 3 soldiers by Hizballah - UNIFIL troops witnessed this and did nothing (I witnessed the evidence myself) and then tried to cover themselves up. They have a long history of uselessness - remember the genocide in Rwanda? millions died, they didn't lift a finger.
Maybe they're stalling on purpose. My dad said something today that is making sense: behind the scenes, they want the fighting to go on, for Israel to do the dirty work for them and take the heat - fight Hizballah, engage in a fight with Iran.. but maybe it's just conspiracy theories. But I wish someone would force a cease fire already - this idiot government of mine is really beginning to seem hell bent on doing its job as badly as possible.. the cabinet authorised extending the campaign further, could take another month. Morons. They're dragging us all into doom, as if we didn't have enough trouble already...

As for Nasrallah - well have you heard? sounds like a different tune he's started to sing this time. At least we got that done... Think those words are legally binding?

10:05 PM  
Blogger TemeculaMike said...

Anon. 9:11 pm is right on. The UN is nothing more than a bunch of blow hards that are too afraid to do anything constructive (beyond passing a bunch of toothless resolutions). It is for this precise reason, the US tends to ignore the UN when it perceives action is required. Of course, this gets the US in trouble with the French and Germans who prefer to argue points and pass useless resolutions.

The State of Lebanon is a friend of the USA and so is Israel. If Lebanon were to ask for U.S. assistance in riding it of Hezbollah, the US would be there in a second.

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why minus the prisoner swap?

Israel has swapped prisoners before, why not now?

Anyways, this war was not about the captured prisoners...

Nasrallah agreed because he knows that its the only solution short of civil war...any non-Lebanese entity remaining in the south (however useless they are) will only trigger HZ...we will see how this plays out.

10:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israel has swapped prisoners before...and that is the exact reason to not do it this time. Stop appeasing the terrorists and give them less reason to act out.

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As for Nasrallah - well have you heard? sounds like a different tune he's started to sing this time. At least we got that done... "

Yay..but at what expense to Lebanon and its people? But, its perfectly okay, now that Israel will be safe from those crazy HZ....

Hmmm.

10:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:15pm, what terrorists are you talking about? you need to be more specific.

10:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Lebanese people are the terrorists. they put on different clothes when the camera's point towards them. Hezbollah is made up of Lebanese’s so you are the terrorists. Your parents should be shot too for pouring hatred into your young minds. Oh wait they are being shot and blown up for the allegiance and creating the terrorists. You want to know which terrorist, just look into the National mirror of Lebanon.

10:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Peace in the MiddleEast. It will never happen, ever. DEath and destruction will always be anywhere radical muslims are.

10:37 PM  
Blogger ChineseBrother said...

Mr.Tez, We read your measage. Keep on your work, we support. Total relocated UN HQ to France, Geneva or Asian. Don't trust US white man.

Proposed UN resolution favours Israel, says Malaysia

By MAZWIN NIK ANIS

PUTRAJAYA: Malaysia is very unhappy with the proposed resolution for the Lebanon-Israel conflict, saying that it is unfair, unbalanced and unjust as it is drafted to favour Israel instead of being a “fair deal” to both countries, according to Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar.

He said Malaysia had expected the draft resolution to give balanced treatment to both Lebanon and Israel and take into cognizance Lebanon’s Seven Point Plan that was submitted in Rome.
“We must not only take into consideration Israel’s needs but also what Lebanon wants. I think it is unfair, unbalanced and unjust. The world should not be dictated purely by Israel’s desires but must also act to protect justice in the international system,” he told reporters after attending the Asean Day celebration yesterday.
The draft resolution, reached through negotiations between the United States and France, was announced by the United Nations on Saturday.

It calls for Hezbollah to stop all military operations and for Israel to stop its offensive military drive into Lebanon. The proposal would allow Israel to strike back if Hezbollah was to break a ceasefire.

Lebanon had asked the UN Security Council to revise the resolution to demand that Israel pull its forces out of the country once hostilities end, and hand over its positions to UN peacekeepers. The draft had made no mention of an Israeli withdrawal.

Syed Hamid said individual countries should come out with a strong statement against the Middle East crisis and also against the “unfair resolution.”
“We should follow the Arab League which has issued an assertive and strong statement against the draft resolution,” he said.

Asked to comment on former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s view that the Organisation of the Islamic Conference should supply arms to Hezbollah to help them fight the Israelis, Syed Hamid said many Muslims around the world probably shared Dr Mahathir’s views.

“He (Dr Mahathir) has got the right to express his views. However, we must ensure that our decisions and moves must be in accordance with internationally accepted norms. Otherwise we will be involved in another war and that will lead us nowhere,” he said.

10:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of the bogs here are associated with the support of a terrorist cell. This includes the links to the right. They all go geared for propaganda uses to miss lead the American people. Don't believe the lies and distorted truths. Pictures on the web and the media are being altered by terrorist sympathizers to gain monetary and moral support for the destruction of Israel and all the Jews of the world.

All Arab Lebanese are terrorists, all liars and deserve to die a terrorist death. Israel has cast a guilty verdict on your lives and will continue to cleanse the earth of your vial existence.

10:51 PM  
Blogger Anon said...

A provocative image yet arguably apt. The UN’s indecision and sycophantic resolution creation is concerning, and outrageous. After all what is the UN here to do?

Come on Mr. Turtle, turn yourself over and get a move on. You can make amends.

Oh, wait a minute. Excuse me Mr. Turtle...the dominant force are up to more shenanigans. Why, they are due to embark on a new 30 day offensive. Not only that but Major General Udi Adam is being replaced by Major General Moshe Kaplinsky. And why Mr. Turtle? Because Israeli military analysts say that Adam “was seen as too cautious to score a decisive victory over Hezbollah”. Yes Mr. Turtle, Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation that cannot be allowed to triumph but you must know that a cease fire is now more paramount than ever. Get a move on will you!

There can be no benefit whatsoever in further offensive operations. That is, unless the whole purpose is to act unilaterally under a guise of “defending ourselves” to acquire more land (albeit in a very roundabout and “yes, we’ll hand over to a UN force, honest” kind of way) and be closer to realising the Zionist dream.

There is so much at stake here. OK, us Westerners can drink our coffee in the morning and ‘tut’ at the goings-on but long term ramifications will affect us all.

With the acquisition of land from the vulnerable, no matter what the supposed rationale – or indeed where, a provocation is being created for retaliation. In Northern Israel this may be in the form of Katyusha’s but what happens next; the Fajrs, longer range weapons, and then what and where?

Look at Iraq; associated terrorist activities were coordinated to deter the Americans, then influence Spanish involvement and now to put pressure on the British to withdraw their forces. And if you watch the news, it seems to be working. Terrorist activities are wrong, of course they are, especially when innocent people are affected, yet this is what makes them effective...BUT they do happen for a reason and NOT because of our arrogant naïve assumption of “I don’t know, they’re all chaotic and religious lunatics with no pragmatic basis”. We must recognise that we are partly at fault.

...and Mr. Turtle here must recognise that in this instance an effective UN resolution addressing the key topics of land ownership must be swift, decisive and fair (re: Shebaa farms/Golan heights). Border agreements must be based upon multi-lateral agreement not on who has the most expensive and shiniest laser guided ordinance, covered in signatures made with crayons.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous ck said...

UN: stands for Useless Nobodys! or better yet United Nickumpoops!America of course doesnt want this to end...it has done this time and time again...it pumps up the Lebanese to go for something only to stab them in the back...
Back in '89 they pumped up Aoun to fight with Syria and liberate Lebanon from Syrian occupation...then suddenly in '90 with the start of the Gulf war they sold Lebanon...and allowed Syria to swallow us up...cos it needed Syria as an ally in the Gulf War....
So, my fellow bros and sisters of this f*** cursed region...history, of course, repeats itself...we kicked Syria out...now since Syria is out...US can use Lebanon as a battlefield to fight Iran..escalation is definitely in the works...US is procrastinating until the end of August till this damn nuclear issues thing is "resolved"??? If it's not solved...then u can consider all hell will for sure break loose...
Sorry for us Lebs and the Israelis in the North of Israel ...u actually bought that this was a local neighborly thing??? Bullshit!

11:02 PM  
Blogger Lilu said...

10:51 - as for your last paragraph, hey if that's what you want, go do it yourself instead of tossing it our way all the time - your dirty work and the blame for it..

10:16 - gimme a break will ya? it's some progress for everyone's sake including the Lebanese, must you attack any Israeli talk?

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:27/10:51 PM: simply illogically and devoid of insight. i feel sorry for you.

11:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't feel sorry for him. We've located him ....

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This war is absolutely insane and it's only serving the purpose of bringing out the Jewish anti-christ. What better way for the devil to come than to put the entire world in chaos and come to them in peace. IT's all apart of prophecy. For the U.S, what goes around comes around. We are getting closer and closer to having war at home.

11:33 PM  
Anonymous ck said...

http://www.theuncampaign.org/download-free-artwork.html


check it out..........sums it up

11:38 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

To the "anon" who thinks I am only anti-Republican... read all of my posts...I am equally critical of any Democratic administration who panders to Israel, and nearly all politicians in the U.S. pander to Israel.

Read my own blog....while I blame the current Bush administration (King George II) for conducting a wholly illegal war in Iraq, the fact of the matter is that seeds for much of this conflict were sown by Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and Bill Clinton. Ironically, the only President to have gotten it right at all was King George I, who did what he was empowered to do in Iraq and then stopped.

The fact of the matter is that the U.S. panders to Israel... always has, and unfortunately always will. Israel is making the mistake of thinking that superior firepower will bring peace; they are sadly mistaken.

11:46 PM  
Anonymous sam said...

Rick are an American?

11:53 PM  
Anonymous Sam said...

Or are you a Nazi Lover?

11:54 PM  
Anonymous sam said...

Sorry, are "you" an American.

11:54 PM  
Anonymous Lili back said...

Oh fuck it.

my little brother is now on the border with uniforms.
he is from the good guys. I swear.


hear some good music meanwhile. Sam shut up.


http://www.cripplecrow.com/

12:03 AM  
Anonymous sam said...

What is a good guy in your mind?

I can't, sorry.

12:08 AM  
Anonymous ghassan said...

Its funny how is it that the hundreds of thousands of deaths in Darfur, Somalia, Ivory Coast, Kosovo ... were acceptable to some but then all of a sudden the UN is to blame for our problems. Its strange, isn't it, when we are more than willing to start something on our own , even when it is against the council of others, and when we get in trouble we start looking for others to save us. All of a sudden the parties whose council we had rejected become responsible for our mismanagemnt and misguided acts.

12:14 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

wtf Sam? Yes, I am an American....one who doesn't think like "Big Brother" or Fox News tells me to think. I am not one the herded cattle who thinks its ok to have the government peruse my telephone calls, or to start illegal wars and then lie about it.

I genuinely miss the days when we had a president whose worst flaw was not keeping his fly closed. This administration is a frakking joke, and it has made the United States a frakking joke. And here we go once again kissing Israel's collective ass because it means money and votes for politicians. And all the while people, yes people, are being killed and we think it's ok because their blood is less important than ours. It's disgusting.

12:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Giving Israel our backing and support is what we would do for any allies unless it cost us something...nothing special about Israel, and it isn't a top secret middle east launch pad.

And yes, of course, Bush is an idiot who has done immense damage to our country, and what does he now do to make it better? well nothing of course, although they have just drafted an amendment to make humiliating prisoners unpunishable by law...[sarcasm]super great way to rebuild our credibility W.[/sarcasm]

Why can't he just do nothing until his term is over? Just doing nothing would be better than constantly making things worse.

12:26 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

AMEN, anon!

12:27 AM  
Anonymous sam said...

I'm proud of Bush, Clinton and all Americans.

12:52 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

All Americans? Why? Because they are American? That's just silly.

12:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all,thanks for acctual information from the lebanese perspective.And the ignorant,war mongering anonymous, you`re the one with the propaganda.... The u.s is pretty unique in ruling hezbolla a terrorist organisation,like hamas, they got way more to them than that,that would be like calling you a terrorist becouse you live in a country infamous for destroying the rest....... no one outside your country believe fox news ok,so stop talking like em,or trust me your country will get what you suggested the lebanese writer should get,a bullet.... seems like you need it!
Let those who follow politics discuss it,without destroying the debate like you have,twisting it,making it a blame game,it`s not. Having said that; the U.s/Israel pact with it`s cronies are polarising the world,only thing they are not noticing is that the world is now 5/6 anti american,most of europe included....... Nazi-Germany could never compare to either the Israelis or the Americans,they actually were nicer!

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love America as well and everything it stands for. The flag flying almost brings a tear to my eye, and the national anthem does the same thing to me as everyone else here...

Bush is more than just an embarrassment to our country...in reality the foreign policy mistakes are big, but not why I dislike him so much...he tries to ammend our constitution for his religious beliefs on marriage, he breaks the law by spying on American citizens without warrants, steal our civil rights people died to gain, and he tries now to rewrite the Geneva Conventions, and basically tries to change things great men did that got us where we are....on behalf of these great men....I say now he is a disgrace to our country...an absolute disgrace to our civil rights, our freedoms, our people, our place in the world...a complete DISGRACE...I am taken back by the damage one man could do to an entire country in such a short amount of time...he ignores congress.our forefathers made it extremely clear how the balances of power would work....the draft he now will present says it is perfectly legal for CIA, political appointees, and ex-military to put dog collars on prisoners, force them to be naked and shit their pants, and it is legal to steal the dignity and humiliate prisoners by any means needed...what a disgrace, my god I want him gone so bad so I can feel proud again of the things we do.

1:07 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

THANK YOU, Anon.... and to others who think it is un-American to criticize our government, quite the contrary... it is perfectly American to criticize our own government. We claim to be the role models for the world? Then we need to walk the talk. What a great post...thank you.

1:11 AM  
Anonymous sam said...

Oh I'm not critizing my gov, just the flower power tree huging hippies like yourself. And yes Rick I'm even proud of you. If you a born or legal American then you are my brother. We are family.

1:17 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

In truth Sam, we are ALL family, no matter what nation people were born in, we can all be traced back to tribes in Africa. So I'm not sure why it's ok to insult one part of the family and commend another.

I've never been characterized as a "tree hugger" before.... as I tend to be pretty hawkish when I think it is actually necessary. But thanks for the compliment.

1:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men" Abraham Lincoln

1:21 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

Thanks for posting this quote...

Lincoln was a very wise man. I am here, Sam and other anons, not because I am liberal or a tree hugger, but because what is taking place needs to be objected to. I'm not nearly as noble as Abe, but it's at least a step.

1:24 AM  
Anonymous sam said...

Um Rick, America is made up of all creeds. I don't get into other countries people as much. When they become one of us then were all family.

1:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The UN is nothing more than a bunch of blow hards that are too afraid to do anything constructive (beyond passing a bunch of toothless resolutions). It is for this precise reason, the US tends to ignore the UN when it perceives action is required." ---- US has BLOCKED the resolution condemning Israel for its disproportionate use of force, that's why UN Security Council cannot agree on anything. Everybody knows that US is always supporting Israel, no matter what. It is obvious as well that US is trying constantly to undermine UN so that nobody gets in the way of the world "hegemon".

1:30 AM  
Blogger Jaeger said...

While I am very sorry that this has dragged on so long, I find the fact that you're giving up hope on the UN encouraging. The UN is part of the problem, not the solution. They are already 28 years into the UNIFIL mandate to extend Lebanese sovereignty to the south with no progress whatsoever to speak of. If you're looking to the UN you're looking at the wrong place - even if you manage to get a ceasefire call and by some miracle Hizb'Allah respects if for a while, this problem won't be solved. They'll just make arrangements to coexist with Hizb'Allah or any other terrorist group that looks to dangerous to take on and we'll be back here in no time.

No, this time it's best if the Lebanese themselves propose a workable solution. In any case the UN adds no value to this equation - if you can persuade Hizb'Allah to hand over territory and control of the rockets to the Lebanese Army this will end.

You could begin a major de-escalation by agreeing to do this just for one area - say start with the city of Tyre. Frankly, it is difficult to take Lebanese calls for a cease fire seriously when rockets are still being fired from places like Tyre. Israel just approved an operation to take the battle to Tyre and everywhere else the rockets are coming from. So there's no question that the rockets will stop, the question is whether they stop because the IDF makes them stop or the Lebanese choose to stop firing them.

Tyre will shortly become an Israeli-occupied parking lot if the rockets don't stop first. Lebanon could gain a great deal of leverage and credibility if they could at least declare one area that has been transfered to the army and assure the Israelis that no rockets will be fired from there - perhaps with UNIFIL verification that the rockets and launchers were under army control. Then, at least, there would be a haven for refugees and the process for de-escalating the conflict could begin.

As it is, we see the PM making very public calls for a cease fire, but what's happening is an invitation to the IDF to continue the battle deeper into Lebanese territory.

The man is either a fool or irrelevant. If he has any influence over Hizb'Allah now he should be taking concrete steps to de-escalate. If he has no influence then it really doesn't matter what the UN, the Lebanese PM or anyone else have to say, as Nasrallah's the only one who can deliver on it anyway.

In any case Lebanon will be much better off if they deal with this themselves rather than holding any delusions about what the UN can deliver on their behalf.

1:34 AM  
Blogger Mr Wrath said...

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1:34 AM  
Blogger Mr Wrath said...

The problem with the UN is they refuse to use military action to enforce resolutions....everyone knows it, so it's a joke.

1:36 AM  
Blogger clare said...

I am praying for peace also, and although I do not understand all the dynamics that are causing this, I believe that the Lebanese people are suffering too much and no one seems to be willing to help.

1:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a way, I know eventually Hezbollah would be defeated given enough time, but they claim victory now...my honest opinion, and it is honest, is that in a sense I would like to see Israel never stopped until Hezbollah will admit defeat.

Normally I am usually for the underdog, but the damage they brought by not just dropping their weapons and going and getting real jobs is too immense to ignore, and they keep it going.

1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:53am: HZ continues because Israel continues...and Israel may say the same thing..round and round we go...

Everyone knows (including Israel) that HZ will never admit defeat..never stand down...

with that being said, Nasrallah already stated that if Israel stops, they will stop...simple... remember, it was Israel that dropped the first bombs....but regardless of who started and for what purpose, nobody is willing to take the first step..

HZ has already won, if you call this a victory, regardles of the outcome (disarmed, killed, whatever)...they won the second this Israeli campaign (and US support of it) was put into effect in Lebanon...

2:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't you get it?
this blogg is just another part of the war, everybody bickering about petty details, who did what first, who is to 'blame', just like five year olds in gindergarden. if we can't see the bigger picture, who can?
if not for HZ, this whole thing would never have started. i think most would agree on that.
shouldn't we focuss out energy on getting rid of HZ?
israel and lebanon could potentioly be very good neighbers in the future. we should be making that happen, eiven if it is only here, on the net

2:22 AM  
Blogger buruburu said...

I won't get into the rather obvious ills of the current american presidency that anonymous 12:56 has outlined above. I just want to say that to my mind the UNs weakness is a direct consequence of the worlds large powers and especially the United States in its manipulation of the organization. The UN is nothing more than a meeting place, a place where the world can discuss issues and take action on these issues. Obviously opinions will differ and compromises will have to be made, but if the United States has it's own agenda and is after it's own interests then obviously the UN is rendered useless. If it was the will of the United States to bring about peace in the world then it would be so, and there is no better place to do it than the UN. Everyboy is there, listening and ready to talk.
One could argue that any one country is only after its own interests and although that is true, I answer that with "With great power comes great responsibility" - and I am not seeing any of that. If America is really so great as Americans beleive it to be then it is time to start living up to that role and stop dressing up wars for cheap oil for america with fabricated moral arguments that have more holes in them than swiss cheese.

2:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"if not for HZ, this whole thing would never have started.."???

This is exactly the point....as I have stated before and everyone in the international community knows, this plan was ready and waiting to be enforced-this "whole thing" was going to happen no matter what...doesnt justify either parties actions..

nobody is bickering about details..details dont matter when innocent people on both sides are dying...

why not focus energy on stopping Israel? Unfortunately, you will never get rid of HZ. You might decrease or even stop their military capabilities but you wont get rid of them. anymore than you can get rid of Israel..remember they are also a social and political force in Leb.

I am not of support of HZ, but neither Israeli policy.

2:45 AM  
Blogger levine said...

There is still room for friendship and peace!

Fellow friends of Lebannon,there is simply no understanding as to whether you are living in fear or defiance. One thing utterly ridiculous though, much is to do with religion or in the name of god. In the 21st century that we are, people are imposing ways or rules which are affecting people for the worst. I raised an important issue in my own blog modernisticviews.blogspot.com, a case for deeper thought. And this has to do with the fact that a lot of Muslim arabs would flock to the land of freedom and promise which is Europe and the USA, if they were given the chance to do so freely. It cannot be a contradiction for one has to account for the number of Arabs in France, Germany, Sweden or the UK. Lebannon is a beautiful country where there was no ill feeling of choking or oppression. Israel was probably wrong in throwing that amount of firepower for two abducted soldiers but it is equally morally wrong for a sovereign country to allow a militia such as Hezbollah armed with such deadly weapons. How can they claim South lebannon to be theirs and be a state within a state. The way forward to achieving lasting peace within the Muslims is to embrace the sense of freedom that they would have been longing for if they were given the chance of heading to the west. No one in the Western world wants to be dictated into living in a 'Christian country or whatever else religion. Equally that should not be the case for Muslim countries. We should all be free and not face any pressure of any sort. Barefly a few are commenting on issues relating to what is the real problem within the muslim world but i have given a short expose on my blogsite and comments are all welcome

3:11 AM  
Blogger Beth said...

I visited Lebanon and was evacuated when the conflict began. I too am devastated about what is happening, and I am ashamed that my country and many of my countrymen show a complete and utter lack of empathy. Nothing like being on the wrong side of U.S.-funded, Israeli-directed bombs to change one's perspective. Hang in there, I for one, am pulling for you.

Beth

4:54 AM  
Blogger Chris Baker said...

A new poll out in the US shows a net of 28% said the war in Lebanon will hurt the situation for the United States in Iraq, That is very significant because polling shows the war in Iraq is one of top 3 issues for Americans right now.

Americans said they disapprove by a small majority the way Bush is handling the war in Lebanon, consistent with previous polls. However Americans strongly favor a UN peacekeeping force - which is of course opposed by Hezbollah.

Americans think Israel is using about the right level of force although a net of 16% said Israel should do more to avoid civilian casualties. Perhaps consistent with that a net of 20% said that Israel should not accept a cease-fire until Hezbollah is disarmed. A net of only 7% said Israel will be more secure because of attacking Hezbollah.

Obviously there is a lot of work for Lebanese officials and bloggers in trying to give the American public a better idea of what has happened in their country. Siniora has appeared for a half hour already on US TV, but rambled on about the plight of the Palestinians which isn't a major issue with Americans. In fact linking Lebanon with the Palestinians was a major blunder by Siniora.

The polls show only a small minority say Israel should treat the Palestinians better, perhaps because they are associated with suicide bombings against Israel which is a non-starter for almost all Americans.

Source: http://www.pollingreport.com/israel.htm

5:34 AM  
Anonymous Lili brings you said...

world peace.

http://mornographyfilms.com/video/full.html

6:54 AM  
Anonymous history said...

Israel has had its eye on the Litani River since 1948. It was part of their original map of the Israeli state, and they are counting on poaching it to ease their severe water problems. Mark my words, they won't stop until they at least get that.

8:17 AM  
Anonymous Jim W., Minnesota, USA said...

Please, Chris Baker, what are you talking about "the way Bush is handling the war in Lebanon"? Last time I looked this was a war being fought solely by Israel against Hezbollah militia. How is Kofi Annan "handling the war"?

Whether our leaders, spokespeople, statesmen, pundits, or others around the world approve or disapprove, this conflict is not being handled by others.

And thank goodness the UN is NOT in charge! What an inept bunch of peacekeepers!

I've been waiting years to fly my U.N. flag at home, but in light of the current fiasco I'll put it away for next decade....

The U.N. has had several year to assess, report, and act on problems in the south of Lebanon. It has done NOTHING!

Heads should roll over there in NYC and some shake up occur which will put the world community back on track to working together towards peace. The U.N. does not want to tackle difficult tasks, and when it does pass resolutuions, it has no notion of how to enforce them!

The founders of the U.N. will be turning in their graves at the dismal level of leadership shown by the many small-time thugs running things! How low they have sunk!

UN, turn in your uniforms!

9:12 AM  
Anonymous Jim W., Minnesota, USA said...

I would not trust the mission or capability of a Lebanese army as a peacekeeping force. They were ineffective at disarming Hezbollah in the first place, second they have been in hiding for the past month when they could have been doing something along the same line as proposed, and third if they have similar views towards Israel as your Prime Minister, they will allow Hezbollah to regroup and re-arm.

What's wrong with some multi-national force (not made up of US, British, or other "coalition" forces)?

9:23 AM  
Anonymous Jim W., Minnesota, USA said...

History, who started the conflict?

9:24 AM  
Anonymous gidi said...

Lili, I like you and I hope that you pass this terrible bloody war in Peace, I wish your brother comes back soon and that he is well.

Love

10:59 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

I give up, Jim. Who started it?

11:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Peace and stop the killing must be the main aim of all activity!! It should be quite obvious...

But some guys dont see it like that. I never want to convict anybodys religion, but the layout of it sometimes.
If Iran, Hizbollah etc. want Peace exclusively after! Israel is disposed from the maps, they should be fought, in my point of view.

I wish all the best for the people who are down there, suffering very close in these regions from this terrible war.

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lili.. this is a very sweet site u put there:) i loved the video :)

PEACE

11:48 AM  
Anonymous Flower Power, Tree Hugging Hippie said...

Lili,

Your brother is part of the army that is defending Israel by trying to get rid of Hezbollah, invading my country, destroying its entire infrastructure, trying to take over the Litani River (maybe on permanent basis), terrorizing people with the sounds of planes and drones buzzing, not to mention with phone calls, almost all after midnight, signed the State of Israel, and killing loads and loads of innocent people in the process.
I don’t believe in violence nor in hatred, and I don’t believe in slapping one label on a bunch of people.
So I want you to know that despite what the Israeli army is doing to my country, I find it in my heart to truly hope that your brother will safely return home, to your loving family. (Albeit very very soon).
I pray for peace and for people on both sides of the border to be safe.

5:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No peace until the job is done!

6:23 PM  
Blogger Cu'cullen said...

I do agree that the U.N. is and has been a useless organization taken over by some pretty unscrupulous players. I've been an advocate of pulling out for years!

But, as to your feeling abandoned by the U.N., no doubt due to the bombing. I just don't understand how Lebanon could have thrown it's promising future away by marrying Iran via Hezbollah - the money I guess!

One month ago, this could've been over if only (in Lebanons case)the two Israeli soldiers were returned. Is it, what you're living now, worth it? Incidently, Britain foiled another murderous airline bomb plot last night!

8:15 PM  
Blogger Bash said...

Everybody knows anyway that the UN has become an American tool.

9:16 PM  
Anonymous dror from israel said...

Breakthrough in talks over cease-fire resolution; Security Council expected to convene Friday

hurra hope this is true and that this is the light in the end of the tunnel

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/749019.html

10:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin from the us
I find it funny that some have called the UN a us tool because I think most Americans feel that it is just a Useless political mess. It takes forever if every for them to come up with a resolution and when they do they can't a agree how to enforce it.
Chris Baker this blog dose help to get the word out. I read every day the FOX News and the gulf daily news to try to get both sides of the story. since the start of this war I have been reading this blog and found that there is a lot more in the middle that I'm missing.
At the start I was for the Israel and I do not believe in proportional use of force. A war is a war and is fought with every thing you have. But with that said I do not agree with the way Israel is fighting this war. They are holding back the troops because they are afraid of the casualties yet they are bombing populated ares. In my eyes the different between a war and a terrorist is a terrorist uses one man to kill 10-20 people and a war 10-20 military die to 1 innocent person. I think Israel has gone from a justifiable war to being as much of a terrorist as the group they set out to destroy .
The other thing is I would like to see is people at least saying what country they are from so I can tell if it is just another outsider like myself or some one there who's opinion counts.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous blogwatch said...

A great quote by Golda Meir:

"We can forgive you for killing our sons. But we will never forgive you for making us kill yours. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."

9:14 PM  

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