Saturday, August 19, 2006

End games?

Read this and the link below. Anyone having a party on Monday?

Iranian cataclysm forecast Aug. 22
Islamists seeking heaven could spark apocalypse, Princeton expert warns

© 2006

A top expert on the Mideast says it is possible Iran could pick Aug. 22, the anniversary of one of Islam's holiest events, for a cataclysm Shiite Muslims believe will forever resolve the battle between "good" and "evil."

Princeton's Bernard Lewis has written an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal advising that the rest of the world would be wise to bear in mind that for those who believe the end of the world is imminent and good, there is no deterrent even to nuclear warfare.

As WorldNetDaily has reported, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has urged his people to prepare for the coming of an Islamic "messiah," raising concerns a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

He's also said, in a WND report, that Islam and its followers must prepare to rule the world, because it is a "universal ideology that leads the world to justice."

Now comes Lewis, who notes that the world must be concerned about a leader for whom the possibility of death is not a deterrent.

"In this context, mutual assured destruction, the deterrent that worked so well during the Cold War, would have no meaning," Lewis wrote. "At the end of time, there will be general destruction anyway. What will matter will be the final destination of the dead – hell for the infidels, and heaven for the believers.

"For people with this mindset, MAD is not a constraint, it is an inducement," he said.

Lewis noted that Ahmadinejad has referred to Aug. 22 several times, including when he rejected – until that date – United Nations requests for nuclear program information.

Lewis, joining several other Mideast experts who have expressed similar concerns, said Aug. 22 corresponds to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427.

"This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to 'the farthest mosque,' usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back," Lewis wrote.

In Islam, as in other religious, certain beliefs describe the "cosmic struggle" at the end of time. For Shiite Muslims, Lewis wrote, this will be "the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil."

The significance, he said, is that there's a "radical" difference between Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons.

"This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran's present rulers," he wrote. Iran's leaders now "clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced."

As for intent, a passage from the Ayatollah Khomeini, quoted in an 11th-grade Iranian schoolbook, reveals priorities: "I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers (i.e., the infidel powers) wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom."

Lewis wrote, "This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadanejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind."

Lewis, the Cleveland E. Dodge professor emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, specializes in Muslim history and interaction between Muslims and the West.

His comments echoed those made just a few days earlier by Robert Spencer, another scholar of Islamic history, theology and law and the director of Jihad Watch.

In an article for, he wrote that Farid Ghadry, president of the Reform Party of Syria, noted the commemoration of Muhammad's ascent to heaven from the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem.

Spencer said the Night Journey, or Miraj, is what makes Jerusalem a holy site for Islam, and Islamic tradition believes Muhammad, along with the angel Gabriel, went to the Temple Mount, and then to heaven in a bathing of light over Jerusalem.

Spencer reported that Ghadry talked of Ahmadinejad's plans for an illumination of the night sky over Jerusalem to rival the light of that Islamic belief.

Ghadry said what the Iranian president is "promising the world by August 22 is the light in the sky over the Aqsa Mosque," Spencer said.

He said a nuclear attack on Jerusalem, or even a conventional attack, would be consistent with the references that have been made, including Ahmadinejad's talk that Israel "pushed the button of its own destruction" by returning fire for Hezbollah's rocket barrage.

Also, "Atomic Iran" author Jerome Corsi notes that it's less significant whether Hezbollah survives, "but it's really the first chapter in the play for Iran and the Shiite Islam nation to come to ascendancy in the Muslim world."

First is the battle against Israel and the United States, he said, then against Sunni Islam. Where that group is more dominant, he said, is in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, where group members are "not unhappy to see Iran contained."

"They may launch an attack, but I still think if they had a weapon they would just go ahead and use it," Corsi said. "Terrorists don't brag about things they're going to do until after they do it."

He said the recent comments are more typical of terrorists' efforts to get attention.

"When Ahmadinejad is capable of taking action he will do it without any warning or bravado; he'll just do it," Corsi said.

In the updated edition of "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians," now available in paperback from WND Books, Corsi discusses many of the disturbing developments related to Iran.

Meanwhile, Tanzanian customs officials have uncovered an Iranian smuggling operation transporting large quantities of bomb-making uranium from the same mines in the Congo that provided the nuclear material for the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima 61 years ago, according to a recent report in the London Sunday Times.

A United Nations report, outlining the interception last October, said there is "no doubt" the smuggled uranium-238 came from mines in the Democratic Republic of the Congo's mineral-rich Katanga province.

The smuggled uranium discovered by Tanzanian customs agents was hidden in shipment of coltan, a rare mineral used to make chips in mobile telephones. According to the manifest, the coltan was to be smelted in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan after being shipped to Bandar Abbas, Iran's largest port.

Uranium-238, when used in a nuclear reactor, can be used to create plutonium for nuclear weapons.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait, are you serious?
This is a joke, right, you posting an article that refers to Bernard Lewis, Bernard F-in Lewis, the so-called Middle East expert, in order to predict Islamic Armageddon on August 22?
The same Bernard Lewis who predicted the Arab nations would turn into good little sand niggers for their Western Masters in 30 years, and then, when it didn't happen, rather than criticize his own theory wrote a book that asked "what went wrong with the Middle East"?
Does Iran even have the capability of a nuclear attack? As I recall, the big hoo-ha is about them enriching uranium, which would mean 15 years before they could start building a bomb, meanwhile Israel has god-knows-how-many honest to goodness nuclear warheads stacked in Dimona?
This is neocon fear mongering, based on the mad ravings of a confirmed Orientalist, and you're quoting this as a credible source?
Lah ya Beirutlive, lah.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thank you anonymous 2:40

3:51 PM  
Blogger Anon said...

This is the sort of nonsense that the West laps up and gets your average voter to wholeheartedly support unscrupulous foreign policy, through fear alone.

I am a westerner, I am foolish, I am ignorant. But I refuse to believe anything Mr Lewis has written in this piece.

Maybe Jerome Corsi could support his outlandish and obnoxious theories with an utterly rubbish source - - in the absence of Nostradamus.

What is going on?

4:43 PM  
Anonymous i care said...

FEAR. False Event Appearing Real.

This is the incitement America and Israel put out to scare people. I cannot beleive you even waste space. Isreal today broke the truce.

7:14 PM  
Anonymous liz said...

It's amazing how far some westerners paranoia about Islam would go.
This is the funniest piece about Armaggeddon I've read yet.
Of course, I feel free to bash it as much as I like, because if this (whatever thing) does take place (La sama7 allah) then nobody would be left to tell me: hey you were wrong!! lol

7:28 PM  
Blogger mikealpha said...

Here are few more ridiculous thing silly westerners believe:

1) When Khoumeini took over Iran he lowered the marriage age for girls to 9 . He reasoned that since that was how old Aisha was when the prophet married her it must be OK, if not praiseworthy.

2) Knoumeni's blue book forbids one from partaking of a meal prepared from the meat of a camel with which one has had sexual relations.

8:35 PM  
Blogger HCB said...

Oh - we're going for a Letterman list of silly things Westerner's believe? Don't forget our belief that the Ayotallah believes it's perfectly natural and proper a child would bind explosives to his or her body so he or she could blow him or herself up with some infidels.

I hadn't heard about not eating tainted camel meat. But, it makes sense, I suppose. But then, I've never eaten a camel. And probably won't.

9:05 PM  
Blogger HCB said...

But - the idea that "if it's Tuesday it must be Armageddon" is plain nonsense. Here's a westerner who doesn't believe it for a minute and laughed when he saw it suggested.

Don't all Mideasterners think we're all infidels and going to hell? Or wherever good people don't go?

9:07 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

Ohmygod.... Armageddon is coming this Tuesday? I better get prepared!

Let's see, do we have the red wine or the white wine for the ending of the world?

What a pile of nonsense.... this person must have every book written about the Nostradamus "prophecies."

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally some objectivity, Thanks Mertz, remember if you make all of the people on one side happy all of the time you are not be objective!

10:07 PM  
Blogger Chris Baker said...

I laughed at the article as well - good find by HB! World Net Daily is the type of propaganda web-site intended for one purpose - to influence American right-wing Republican "shock troops", as I call them. These are people who are conservative, often racist, not well-educated and generally very gullible to right-wing propaganda. They will proceed to post comments from a story like this all over the web, including on foreign web-sites, as well as call in to talk radio, etc.

Very wealthy right-wing Republicans finance web-sites, talk radio stations, newspapers, and TV stations all directed toward spreading propaganda that boosts their political agenda. It is one of the most insidious parts of America today, but it works. Wealthy right-wing Republican interests have gotten huge tax cuts for the rich, environmental programs slashed, a Congress heavily influenced by business interests, and an Administration who caters to their interests.

As an example World Net Daily has an article on ex-President Carter who is an evangelical Christian and fairly well regarded in the US. However on July 31st Carter wrote a scathing op-ed in the Washington Post criticizing the Bush administration's Middle East policy (link below). For example Carter wrote: "A major impediment to progress is Washington's strange policy that dialogue on controversial issues will be extended only as a reward for subservient behavior and will be withheld from those who reject U.S. assertions."

Right-wing Republicans were of course incensed and soon after that conservative Republican "shock troops" started posting critical comments about Carter on American bulletin boards. I had wondered what the source was since most Americans are very fuzzy on history, and would do well to know in which decade Carter was President. Democrats unfortunately haven't learned to use propaganda for their own purposes, although they are starting to catch on.

One very wealthy individual, George Soros, who grew up in Europe before World War II thinks right-wing Republicans use of propaganda to motivate their conservative "shock troops" is very similar to the early tactics of the Nazi's. As a result Soros contributed heavily to Democrat's in 2004, and of course was thoroughly vilified in right-wing Republican propaganda. Meanwhile American Jews and Israel are happy to accept Republican support, since many Democrats are now critical of Israeli military tactics.

Link to Carter's op-ed:

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carter is quite possibily the most useless President ever. And what he's done since, has been even more non consequential.

11:09 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

Great post, Chris --- very accurate on how the radical right wing strom troopers attack in this country.

As far as anon, get your history right. Carter did more for peace in the Middle East than any Republican since. And as a past president he has been an active global citizen, using the presidency as a bully pulpit. All King George I has done (other than Katrina efforts) is to hang out with his Saudi pals.

11:43 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

storm troopers, even...


11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


12:35 AM  
Blogger Chris Baker said...

rick - it's probably more like Bush's ex-Saudi pals. Those from Lebanon might know better but the Prime Minister of Lebanon, Fouad Siniora, seems very close to the Saudi's through the Lebanese Hariri family. The Hariri's family business holdings, which Siniora helped manage, are apparently worth $billions. Saad Hariri leads an important political bloc in the Lebanese parliament and recently blasted Syrian and Iranian interference in Lebanese affairs, no doubt with the approval of Siniora.

You can be sure that Bush's blocking a cease-fire for so long at the UN Security council, at the insistence of American neo-con's and Israel, won't be forgotten by either Siniora or the Saudi's. However the Gulf oil states will always remains nominal allies of the US because the US Navy helps protect the Persian Gulf from a potential Iranian blockade.

As a result of the Bush administration, Kuwait may be the only real ally the US has left in the Middle East - besides Israel. The influence of both the EU and China are likely to grow very rapidly in the Middle East, especially if China develops a world-class Navy. Only US neo-con's call that "progress".

You wonder how long before the Republican party turns on Bush, who has already been found guilty of violating the US "War Crimes" Act by the US Supreme Court and now recently of violating the federal eavesdropping statute.

12:35 AM  
Blogger Chris Baker said...

P.S. "most recently" is by a US District Court in which the ruling included the now famous comment "there are no hereditary kings in America."

This legal blog covers Bush's extra-constitutional activities:

1:01 AM  
Blogger i care said...

Anonymous said:
"Carter is quite possibily the most useless President ever. And what he's done since, has been even more non consequential"

He has respresented America as one of the most hands on humanitarian former presidents ever. For that I am very proud. He actually keeps a copy of Khalil Gibrans "Prophet" by his bedside. He has done well for humanity!

4:46 AM  
Blogger Julie said...

Carter was a peanut farmer, in other words, he came from the people. He is the most humanistic president we have had in deccdes, though when in office his foreign policy was peppered with gaffes, since leaving office he is a wonderful diplomat and a good face to put forth to the world. Too bad he represents something that might be called the "Old America", he'll never represent today's Amerika

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Ali said...

Hb is right, you Israelis accuse us lebanese of nuturing this environment. You think we like to live in a country with bombs, guns and generators?! Fuck that, so stop breathing down our necks already. Obviously we can't solve it through action-duh, have you seen our army??? It came straight out of MASH, we don't even have guns on our choppers. And really, I mean look how you guys lost your ass, you think we stand a chance???? Why don't you just help us out and give back this two bit shitty hill and a couple of terrorits whatever you want to call them. Why don't you frickin help us out for once instead bitching about your fears all the time. Do something just for once and build a little fuckin trust then if you still want to get rid of them we and the rest of the world will actually be able to help you.

4:21 PM  
Blogger HCB said...

Ali has it exactly right - Israel needs to go to Lebanon and offer help - not threaten to bomb even more.

I think there would be some big surprises in store for all the hate and naysayers if there was a simple display of respect and tolerance. Coupled with a spirit of wanting to get along rather than issuing threats and demands.

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If any good came from this, I think people like myself realized the majority of people of Lebanon are quite western in their style and thinking....most here in the U.S. didn't know this I would think.

Some people there are still looking old style and 400 years in the past, but when a younger person like myself sees that people there are out having fun and partying, and dressing like we do, it makes me feel Lebanon is with us in our thinking of how things should be.

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that during this whole thing...Israel lost a lot of support from people here in the U.S., and the people of Lebanon gained a lot after we see how they are a lot like us.

2:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me clarify what I meant by my post because after reading it again, I don't think I got directly to the point enough....what I was getting at is that people here, myself included, had negative feelings without even knowing exactly why, if someone would just say "Lebanon". It was basically a lack of knowledge and understanding.

Hearing the name "Lebanon" would bring a mental picture for me of a war-zone and fighting, and military type stuff....I didn't learn to much about Lebanon growing up, but when I was a small kid, I remember hearing about it on the which point in my life politics and other countries meant nothing to me and I would change the channel..

I was actually very suprised to see pictures of Lebanon, and to realize how freakin' beautiful the place is, and equally suprised to find out that tourism is so big there because I thought it would be a dangerous place. I am also very glad to have learned how much pride the people have in their country there, because we are the same way, and it was cool to see how people had and have all these dreams of what they want the country to become...

Politicians here often rely on the fact people are ignorant of the facts. The image of Lebanon in many peoples minds here is so wrong it is absurd. Everyone has their own opinions of things, and some are mad about the infrastructure, and some about the economy, some only the lives losted, but for me, what really got me, is one pic of people partying during thewar....judge me how you will....I thought to myself, man, if I was there, I would be right there with those people partying...I saw right then you guys are just like us here, and now I am on your being on your side means nothing, but I do now see how many artists, poets, and thinkers live there, and it contradicts what I previously though..

If Israel loses the support of the Americans people, which they will if they do things like they have, then who will save them? I was never for Lebanon or Israel honestly, but if I had to choose one to live in...Lebanon looks awesome.

Don't blog so anti-Israel in my opinion, that's not what swayed me, it was all the pro-Lebanon stuff that educated me. Everyone over there bitches about Israel, and we here are so used to hearing it, that it is not as effective as showing all the good things Lebanon offers the world.

3:10 AM  

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