Sunday, August 13, 2006

1,071 Dead

1,071 Dead
3,628 Injured
973,334 Displaced

And that's in just 33 Days since Israel attacked Lebanon. Makes for good reading. Today was a predictable day. Both sides agree to ceasefire but Israeli steps up its attacks on Lebanon. At about 2pm today we were sitting hoping for some calm and then in the space of one minute 18 bombs dropped, earthquaking in power and massive in sound. Smoke rises again from the southern suburbs, this time the district of Rweiss. Is this what is? A show of final force by the Israelis before they have to 'cease fire'. Gain the highest advantage with which to bargain with. Please. I am more negative now than I was the other day. Hezbollah cannot agree on how the army will be deployed to the south and how and when they will give up their weapons. It is going to be a long negotiation. But we have a big problem - Hezbollah has a minor victory in that it can show it has fought ISrael and hurt it, hurt its military might and shown it cannot be wiped out by all the force Israel and the Americans have to offer. At the same time Israel has won nothing and lost lots of soldiers and credibility. It's army proven able to 'bleed'. Which means that with its thousands of soldiers 'cleaning up' (in the words of the the arch-liar Mark Regev who always manages to make murder sound eloquent and normal) it needs to come out of this with a stonger victory than what is currently available. So its going to be a heavy night of bombing tonight and we hunker down hoping for the best. But my point was that with neither side particularly happy with this ceasefire and neither with anything much than can be called victory both will take any provocation to continue the war I think. There goes another bomb. For America has seen that Israel cannot clear out what it views as 'terrorists' even with all the arms and support it gets from them, so it has won nothing and Bush resorts to his pathetic narrow minded world view. Here's hoping for peace and a night of calm and this ceasefire to work.

26 Comments:

Blogger Anon said...

Although far from a holistic solution, the implementation of Resolution 1701 is significant progress, with Siniora stating this “shows that the whole world stood by Lebanon”.

The inexorable blitzkrieg that is being unleashed by Israel until the ‘bell goes’ is shocking, although somewhat par for the course. But it cannot be doing Olmert any favours. Hezbollah have defiantly continued with their strikes, proving that current IDF stratagems are ineffective and NOT that terrorism wins. This could well bring about wholesale change upon reflection, once we have a cessation of violence.

The thing that prays on my mind is the methodology of augmenting UNIFIL and juxtaposing these troops with that of Lebanon’s. Will the UN forces have a Chapter VII mandate and be empowered to enforce the peace? And where will the troops themselves be derived from; hopefully an effective cross-section with peace-keepers from both Turkey and Pakistan for example.

Saw the Newsnight piece on life in Lebanon aired on Friday. It really did echo the senseless damage and destruction that this conflict has brought about. There seemed to be very little said about the effects of Israel’s embargo, and nothing about how it was due to be resolved. It seems to be something that the media over here don’t go into. I wonder why.

I hope that the ceasefire is conformed to in its entirety from 5am tomorrow. I also hope that we don’t have some bright spark claiming that the agreement is for 5am in Alaska.

I am so, so sorry for all that has been lost and set-back. I do pray that tomorrow the world will see the beginning of the country’s renaissance...

Mortimer

10:16 PM  
Anonymous i care said...

I just spoke with my mother n law in Lebanon. She could not speak, she was destraught, crying and has given up. Today, Isreal bombed more buildings in Beirut, the article confirms my familys call. As an American, I am to the point of no fear to speak out. Why should I be afraid to call the Isreali and American Govts terrorist? That is what they are, they should take a good look in the mirror when they call Hezbollah, Syria, Iran and the "liquid bomb plotters" and the guys with the telephones. I am plain sick of it! My congressman Bill Nelson will not meet with me, only his assistant will tell me "Isreal is our ally and are responding in self defense." What self defense, this is an offensive - OFFENSIVE! Americans it is time we take back our countries values. I am tired of watching the Arab world humiliation. Why is my voice silenced? Why is my personal information not worth the time of my congressman?
I told my mother n law to remain very very strong in her spirit, not to let Isreal break her this time. Let her spirit break Isreal, not to allow this ever again after this invasion.

11:03 PM  
Blogger HCB said...

I care:

Good. We'll be heard.

11:11 PM  
Blogger Chris Baker said...

This is quite a bomb-shell in the US: According to prominent US journalist Seymour Hersh writing for New Yorker magazine, Israel had devised a plan for attacking Hezbollah and SHARED IT WITH THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION well BEFORE July 12!

Hersh's report will likely be up at http://www.newyorker.com/ tomorrow. This is the report from AFP (Australian):
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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh writes in The New Yorker magazine that President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were convinced that a successful Israeli bombing campaign against Hezbollah could ease Israel's security concerns and also serve as a prototype for a potential US preemptive attack to destroy Iran's nuclear installations.

Citing an unnamed Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of the Israeli and US governments, Hersh said Israel had devised a plan for attacking Hezbollah -- and shared it with Bush administration officials -- well before the July 12 kidnappings.

"When they grabbed the soldiers in early July, that was then a pretext" for Israel's assault on Hezbollah, Hersh said Sunday on CNN television.

"We (the US) worked closely with them (Israel) months before, not necessarily ... knowing when it was going to happen, but when there was an incident they will take advantage of the incident, what I call a fortunate timing'," Hersh said.
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Source (Yahoo News US): http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060813/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictus_060813183058

11:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin From US

I hope we don't lose site of the fact's. The blame game at this point will not help peace. Hezbollah is not an elected government and there for should not have weapons or an army. They should be allowed to remain as a party in politics. Israel should pay war damages. Hezbollah and Israel were both wrong.

12:24 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

I've been told several times in different ways a Christian would not use the term "pigs of war" as I have when referring to the manner in which Israel and the US have conducted themselves in this "war." I've not been too successful in defending myself. So - as a final statement on the matter, I thought to show you what Christians provide Jews for waging this "war." Without intending to excuse Hezbollah, I invite you to compare these weapons to the rockets I am told so repeatedly are full of steel balls intended only to maim.

The Textron link is to a slick movie - a commercial for the "Sensor Fuzed Weapon." A B-52 crewman is telling an enthralled audience how the bomb worked on an Iraqi column.


Textron's commercial for the CBU-97 and CBU-105. Click on the demo video link. These are the "only combat proven weapons" that yield a "clean battlefield." One weapon covers 20-30 acres.
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-3261.html
Two of them "decimated" an entire Iraqi tank column.

Graphics of the CBU
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/cbu-97.htm

Generally why CBU should not be used
http://www.mcc.org/clusterbomb/

1:13 AM  
Anonymous Daniel said...

rs your views are booring, Im fed up with your hypocritic reporting, peace on all... blah blah blah.... today Hez fired from Lebanon 250 rockets, today Hez tried to drive a suiside bomber truck into Israeli border town of metula. today Hez (Lebanon) tried to launch two planes with no pilots charged with bombs into Israeli towns and make them exploded in civilian towns.

we wont let them we will fight them even though you find it difficult to understand, the bloody Hez and Iran and Syria needs to get out from your country and then we will also leave your country in peace to have your exciting silly festivals. who cares about your fukin festivals anyway.

wake up and start taking a little responsability for your actions or non actions.

oh and as for your so called ' facts' interesting to know where you got them from ? did you personally count the dead bodies, injured etc...? I guess not.

Im sure this will also change sometime in the future.

Im also glad this war is in its last days as I will stop reading your one sided stupid blog.

2:00 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

Daniel - just go away. You do nothing by simply frothing at the mouth. You don't even get serious attention.

2:33 AM  
Blogger Jaeger said...

I certainly hope that this will be the end of the nightmare for Lebanon but realistically it's hard to believe the cease fire will hold. We already see stories like this:
http://dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=74723
The Lebanese government, which includes two ministers from the Hezbollah movement fighting Israel, also approved the resolution on Saturday.

But it postponed indefinitely a meeting scheduled for Sunday on disarming Hezbollah because the Shiite movement stood by a refusal to give up its arms, a cabinet minister who declined to be named told AFP.


So the government of Lebanon agreed to something it has no ability or perhaps even the desire or intention to deliver. In the past the UN has ignored these sorts games and Israel tolerated it. But I don't think that's going to happen this time.

2:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

daniel its 2am do your parents know u are up that late on the internet writing a whole bunch of bs, quit your gibber gabber and go to bed dumbass.

2:40 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

But if it now has no ability to do it, how could it possibly have had the ability before? How can you say it's a "game?" If Israel and the US are serious in the contention that it's really Iran and Syria behind all this, then why are they not destroying those two countries? If the problem is that Hezbollah gets support from them and the legitimate Lebanese government does not have the ability to either stop it or take away what's been done, why would the bombs not be raining down on Damascus? And Tehran?

2:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin From USA

Every thing I have read said Lebanese government does not have the ability to disarm Hezbollah. That is way I think that the UN did not call for the disarm of Hezbollah right away . It did call for the world to supply the Lebanese government with the arms and money and training so they can in the near future

3:19 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

Understood and agreed. But why didn't that happen a month or two ago? What was served by the bombing and destruction? What was served by all the deaths? How is anything really different as of right now? Or a month from now?

3:36 AM  
Blogger Lilu said...

guys, we've got less than 4 hours to go. The fighters in the field aren't stopping, so can't we at least shut up until 7 a.m.? must we go back to the old antics?
Enough. Let's just hold our breath, pray for the best, and see what happens. Change has to start somewhere and it might as well be here.

3:47 AM  
Anonymous i care said...

Jaiger,
The Un Draft Resolution I read did not call for the immediate disarming of Hez.. I am not certain why the government would be attempting this in the first place.

4:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin From USA
hcb the only answer I can give is because of ignorance! Mine and many others around. For that I apologize to all the Lebanese people. To Lilu hold tight and with you are all my prays

4:07 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

OK Lilu - let's take a break and pray for the best. Wherever you are, I guess it's about 4 in the morning. I hope you are sleeping well but I imagine from the little I know, you are pacing.

4:11 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

IF this IS a conspiracy between Israel and the Bush Administration, I will be deeply disappointed but not surprised. Bush is determined to wreck U.S. credibility before he leaves office.

The president of Iran was on "60 Minutes" tonight and, unfortunately, he is sounding like the reasonable one these days. Very frightening.

4:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israel has accomplished nothing form this war except the destruction of Lebanon. If their goal was to make Syria and Iran look bad in the people's eyes in order to have a reason to attack them, they have not accomplished this. Iran and Syria did not take any bait that Israel and the U.S. gave them. So, this war has only worked to make Israel and the U.S. look bad in the people's eyes. They haven't even dampered Hizbullah's capabilities. Now they want the Lebanese army to disarm them when they were in better shape before the war. Why couldn't Israel have put some pressure on them to disarm Hezbollah when all of the army's capabilities were at full strength? That would have worked a lot better. Now they have only made Hezbollah defiant and made the Lebanese people angry. Nothing will ever be accomplished like this. Israel signs the UN agreement, but nothing form their side changes. Yet another UN agreement not carried out by them.

4:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin From USA
Anonymous 4:32am: Correct me if I'm wrong but Israels goal was to weaken Hezbollah's army and push them out of south Lebanon so the Lebanese army and UN forces could take control. At least that what they say

4:54 AM  
Blogger Lilu said...

nope hcb, I was updating my blog.. I have developed a tendency in recent days not to go to sleep until I see the sun come up.
And I'd like to expand on my previous comment with a quote:

"Maybe it's worthwhile for us, for a change, not to break their arm during negotiations, but rather, engage in genuine dialogue. This is a weapon we haven't used yet, and when an enemy turns to an enemy out of respect for the other's anxieties, it could have an immense impact."

The quote is by the Israeli author David Grossman, said at a press conference 3 days ago.
Grossman's son Uri was killed yesterday in combat in southern Lebanon.

http://jointvoices.blogspot.com/2006/08/with-minutes-to-go-victim-of-day.html

5:25 AM  
Anonymous earth mama said...

Daniel, I blame you for spray-painting unharnessed emotion on the positive message of looking at both sides of the picture. You are right, we should be looking at both sides. Please learn to control yourself and preach what you are trying to preach, instead of in your fanatic sounding way.

155 Israelis have died. More than 1,000 Lebanese have. Hezbollah started the current conflict. IDF escalated it beyond our wildest imagination. So did Hezbollah.

Hezbollah has proven itself a military option, but having arms does not mean you should be using them indiscriminately. Hezbollah's message is not one of peace. neither is the IDF's. But we civilians want peace. We want our beaches and our trees and our mountains and our friends and our freedoms and our vacations and our work and our lives.

A cease-fire is going into effect in three hours. Hezbollah must be controlled. The IDF must withdraw. The governments of both must turn to international arbitrers to settle this longstanding conflict once and for all. Both sides must halt fire. This region is so old, so beautiful. Let us survive. I'm sick of empire wars.

5:26 AM  
Blogger Lilu said...

also check out: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/750005.html

5:28 AM  
Blogger HCB said...

It would be good, Lilu, if leaders around the world were required to learn some of the techniques of mediation and negotiation. I just read about Uri Grossman's death - some are cheering, some are mourning and some just don't care. That's the problem with warmaking decisions - they are so impersonal. People don't empathize - they simply do not understand that Uri Grossman has a father and a mother just as they do. And vice-versa. They don't understand the grief and pain and trauma at the very lowest level - they like to say they do, but they don't. If George Bush's daughters were serving in Iraq, he'd have a completely different view than simply as the Commander in Chief. If people could stop for a moment and think why a mother would encourage her child to blow himself up and why the latest group of bombers - the ones who were stopped in London - are college educated, husbands and fathers - if people could stop and wonder what would so reduce a human being to that level, then we could talk.

But - as we see here, there are bigots and hardliners and completely thoughtless people. And they simply wear down the rest who want nothing of the war and killing.

The sun should be up now, Lilu - get some sleep.

Howard

5:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

German Forces will engage in Beyrouth to secure
Lebanon's borders. Leopard_II tanks will dancing
around the Litani river. You can hear already the
classical Vienna Walzers as the current general
secretary of Nato with a sharp eye to Lt. General Jones[U.S. Army Chief of Staff], Hoop de Scheffer, recently said. Preparations in Germany are on the
way to receive the green lights from the Supreme
Court in Karlsruhe and the majority support in the
parliament( Reichstag at Berlin ) as a winning coalition.
It follows a liberal note to the German Liberal Party:
Es scheint bei der F.D.P bald Liberalismus Einzug zu halten.
A) mindestens 4 Milliarden Iran-Investitionen stehen auf
dem Spiel. Diese gehen ohne einen
Litani-Einsatz der Bundeswehr
verloren. B) Ein F.D.P.-Eintritt
in die Regierung beginnt durch einen starken Wiederauftritt in der Aussenpolitik. Cheney will eine westliche Wirtschaftsweise
im Mittleren Osten einführen. Ohne
die deutschen Liberalen wird er
dort definitif scheitern. Wir
sollten dort unsereren deutschen
Vertrauensvorteil bei Schiiten voll auspielen. Niemand wird bestreiten, dass wir bei den
Arabern besser als die U.S. Corporations im Rennen liegen.

11:51 AM  
Blogger che said...

I hope this blog finds you in the midst of a long term peace and not just a cease fire. We too saw many cease fires come and go - we pray that this one in Lebanon stays!! I see your discussing many political issues. I have a slightly different comment - which is really a request. The Sarajevo Film Festival would like to stage a silent protest for the civilian victims in Lebanon. We thought a good way to express this would be the Qana massacre. We are looking to post the names and ages of the 37 + children killed on that day but we cannot find the names anywhere. Can you help us?

12:29 PM  

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